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Make empty Gradebook cells worth 0 points

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It would be nice to have empty cells in the Gradebook worth 0 points for the assignment and have it included in the calculation for the Overall grade.

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    Michael Lazaroff

    There is a simple option that would make everyone happy.  Simply give teachers options when setting up the grade book:  (1) making every empty cell count as a zero until the assignment is turned in, (2) only changing an empty cell to a zero AFTER the due date and time of the assignment, or (3) not marking a blank cell as a zero, but require the teacher to do so manually.  Other grade books give you such options; it is time for Schoology to do the same.

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    Jeremy Ensrud

    An option to count blanks as zeros would be nice. The biggest problem occurs when the teacher manually enters a zero (for an accurate grade representation) and the student then submits or retakes the test/quiz. In this case the zero remains, it is not automatically overwritten.

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    Mr. MacLeish

    I agree with Mike... 

     

    with the current setup if a student has completed 1 of 10 assignments (and got an 80) their average (in reports) appears as an 80 instead of an 8... 

     

    If i go in and change all the blank cells to 0 the problem is that those assignemtns are no longer listed a "ungraded" and when a student completes the work the zero remains... 

     

    I would love the options that mike suggests

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    Mrs. B

    I prefer it as it is now, which provides me with necessary options.

    Left blank, the assignment is not included in the calculation.

    Or I can add the 0 in which case it is included.

    I'd prefer SCH to NOT automatically change an empty cell to 0.

    How would SCH know 'when' to do change a blank cell to a 0? How would it know a student isn't just late, sick, traveling? Would all cells appear with 0's immediately, and only change when a grade was added?

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    Dr. Pfau

    Makes sense to have a late assignment/quiz appear as zero until it gets done.  Zero will then change to whatever the grade is after it's completed.

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    Mrs. B

    I add the zeros when calculating report card grades.

    @ Mr. MacLeish: "If i go in and change all the blank cells to 0 the problem is that those assignemtns are no longer listed a "ungraded" and when a student completes the work the zero remains... "  My experience was different. Assignments submitted late via dropbox (after a zero had been entered) still appeared as an ungraded dropbox item. I marked them, and SCH changed the zero to the mark. 

    Again, I am the one who needs to decide whether or not missed work is aggregated into a student's grade, not SCH.

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    Dr. Harrison

    I am not in favor of this unless it is an option set by the school or the teacher.  For those of us using the PowerSchool integration app, we are used to blanks having no impact on the student's grade/being neutral.  Making blank cells worth "0" would cause all kinds of problems for us in the PowerSchool sync.

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    Sarah Belliveau (Ms. Belliveau)

    I also agree with Mike. The option to set it either way would be beneficial. I personally like that the cells are left blank and don't calculate, but can see why others would feel differently. 

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    Tony Campbell

    I would like to have the choice. What about a check box when creating the assignment that allows a zero to be entered if the assignment isn't turned in by the due date. However, I would want that coupled with another change...I still want to be notified if the student turns the assignment in so I know to give them a grade for doing the work. This becomes quite important in courses that are self paced. Students working at their own pace through content sometimes "miss" assignments. I know we can force them to lock step through everything, but this would provide an alternative. I don't believe the option would cause anyone any issues and I believe the option would be beneficial.

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    Karen Spence

    Yes! This needs to happen!

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    Mr. Boennighausen

    However this is implemented, it needs to allow teachers to keep blanks cells, especially for those systems that are integrated with PowerSchool

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    Mr. Fahey

    This would be great. Right now I have frustrated students (and their parents) thinking that they are cruising by with a B until the end of the semester hits and Bam! zero's are entered into the grade book and the student fails.

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    KRISTA KING

    I agree with Mike's second suggestion. "only changing an empty cell to a zero AFTER the due date and time of the assignment". This is crucial especially for Higher Ed and tracking student success and academic progress. Once an assignment is late by the due date, a zero would automatically be placed in the grade book and affect the student's overall grade. If there are circumstances where an instructor would accept late work, then the zero can be changed appropriately. This would keep the student's grade up-to-date automatically and show the impact of a missed assignment immediately.

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    Dr. Pfau

    I do wish that zero's for missing grades (student doesn't take test or quiz) would not count as a zero for the class average. Or at least have the option of having them not count.

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