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My students are complaining they can't see their grades. I have created a test student, added a grade for an assignment, and logged in as that students; I also can't see the grade.

What setting do I need to change in order to permit my students to see their grades??

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    Professor Levine

    When I go to the gradebook and hover the cursor over "Overall", I see a popup that says "Students will not see grades for unpublished assignments". If I've set a due date that "closes" the assignment so no additional submissions are possible, have I made the assignment "unpublished" after the due date?

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    Professor Levine

    Yep; that seems to be the problem. If I set a due date and "unpublish" the folder in which the assignment resides, when I grade the assignment (which would, of course, be after the closing date), NO student may see his/her grade. This is a ridiculous "feature". I should be given the choice to permit students to -always- see their grades. The way it's set up now, I have to print reports as PDFs and eMail them to each student.

    Please fix this.

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    Ms. Allison

    No wonder my students can't see their grades. That's ridiculous! I think the student version of the gradebook is useless. Why are the grades grouped according to my categories and not in a nice list like the teacher gradebook? This is the worst feature of Schoology.

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    Jen Fruend

    I had this same exact issue! I make things unavailable after the due date. Of course we're midway into October and a student just told me they had no grades! I've been searching all over for this! Why on EARTH would the grade also become invisible to the student??? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of a gradebook? Thank you for posting your solution--I've been messing around for a couple of days now!

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    Nathan Mattson

    This is an indication that the creators of schoology do not teach classes. Why on earth would hiding a quiz after it was finished take it out of the grade book? Add this to the list of schoology issues that defy logic and common sense.

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    Ms. Allison

    all of you need to "vote" to increase the priority of this issue. Click on the number next to the original message. It seems to be the only way to get Schoology's attention.

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    Racquel Springer

    The fact that students are unable to see their grades after the due date is extremely illogical. A teacher doesn't grade an assignment until the due date has passed.

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    Professor Levine

    Still not fixed? The most moronic decision imaginable for a CMS expected to be used in education.

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    Ms. Allison

    I really don't think anyone reads these posts. It seems like a very inefficient way to offer support.

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    Ms. Allison

    I also hate that students view their grades grouped by category of grade. Only the teacher cares about that. Students want to see a list of assignments by date and their grade for each. As a teacher, I like schoology for other features, but this is idiotic. It is not student-centered at all.

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    Professor Levine

    I emailed this link to Schoology and defined it as a bug. It might not actually be that but, instead, an example of extreme stupidity on the part of the website designers who, obviously, don't have a clue about the process of homework.

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    Ms. Allison

    Is there some other way to get Schoology's attention on this? It's beyond idiotic.

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    Professor Levine

    Thought you should all see what passes for logic with these people. Their response to my "bug report" is at the bottom. My answer to her is at the top.

    Angelique,

    Thank you for answering. However, your explanation is not satisfactory. Specifically, you write:

    "When an assignment is marked invisible, the grade is made invisible as well. There are a number of benefits to this, including scenarios where assignments require multiple submissions and the current grade is not the final grade for that item.”

    This makes absolutely no sense. If the assignment is invisible, there can never be any additional submissions (by your logic). As for the “current grade is not the final grade for that item”, what does that have to do with anything?

    If you bother to read all the complaints, you’d know whoever made this design decision has never been a teacher. Your recommendations require much more work for 99.9% of the teachers in order to permit…something…to happen for the other .1%.

    In fact, if you would have the courage to post a poll about this to all users, I can predict the outcome…and so can you.

    Barry Levine

    On Feb 12, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Angelique Rutter help@schoology.com wrote:

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    Angelique Rutter, Feb 12, 11:37:
    Hi Barry,

    Thank you for checking in with the Help Desk- I'm extremely sorry that this has been a pain point for you, however this is the expected behavior with the assignment, and not actually a bug to be fixed.

    When an assignment is marked invisible, the grade is made invisible as well. There are a number of benefits to this, including scenarios where assignments require multiple submissions and the current grade is not the final grade for that item.

    If your goal in making assignments unavailable is to stop students from submitting, a better workaround might be locking the assignments. Locking the assignments prevents users from posting/creating new submissions. This can be found by clicking on the gear icon, selecting edit and clicking on the Lock icon to the right of "Advanced."

    Once the assignment is locked, she might want to move locked assignments to folder titled "past due assignment," or something similar. This way students will know that they can't post to these assignments, and will not be able to even if they try. Their grades, however, will still be visible.

    As a work around, it'd also be possible to create an ungraded assignment, along with a Grade Column in the Gradebook and enter the grades there. That way, the hidden assignment will be separate from the visible grade. Once again, I apologize for any inconvenience. I apologize that there isn't currently a way to hide the assignment, but not the grade.

    Best,

    Angelique Rutter
    Schoology, Inc.

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    Ms. Allison

    Angelique, your answer makes no sense to me either. When you were in school, didn't you want to know your grade AFTER the teacher graded it and handed it back to you? I am not grading assignments BEFORE the due date. And just as when you were in school, students must submit their assignment BEFORE the due date. If there are multiple submissions, I make multiple assignments with different due dates. All of this makes no sense. You may not call this a bug, but we teachers call it a Schoology feature that was poorly designed and needs IMMEDIATE changing. In the current situation, the grades only benefit me. I have to tell my students to visit our school gradebook (a separate system) if they want to see what grade I assigned them. Grades are a crucial feature for any class management system. It may force me to find a different system.

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